tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post6744301742765699575..comments2024-03-28T10:44:41.756-05:00Comments on The War Movie Buff: TROY (11) vs. MASTER AND COMMANDER (6)War Movie Buffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999735218343872013noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-79556212736489890762012-10-07T03:56:46.170-05:002012-10-07T03:56:46.170-05:00i agree, Rachel. I'm a girl and loved the movi...i agree, Rachel. I'm a girl and loved the movie too. just finished watching it again. never fails to impress. i keep getting more and more from it. wonderful character development as well as great action and suspense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-20459037811372746992011-03-31T18:38:01.374-05:002011-03-31T18:38:01.374-05:00Thanks Rachael. I apologize if my sexist comments...Thanks Rachael. I apologize if my sexist comments offended you. Please feel free to set me straight in future reviews. As a guy, I was not impressed by Kruger, she is a good actress, but does not have a face that would launch a thousand ships (seemingly a requirement for the role).War Movie Buffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999735218343872013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-8184723317542773912011-03-27T12:32:07.318-05:002011-03-27T12:32:07.318-05:00I'm a woman and Master and Commander is my fav...I'm a woman and Master and Commander is my favorite movie EVER. So I disagree that it is a male-oriented movie just because the only woman in the film is a Brazilian girl in a boat who Jack smiles at while they're reprovisioning, as the one nod to the fact from the book series that Jack is a ho in a major way. I think it's a fallacy that there needs to be female characters in a film for it to appeal to a female audience. Many of my female friends think the movie is incredible too.<br /><br />I didn't dislike Troy. It was merely 'okay.' I think Diane Kruger is beautiful as Helen, so I disagree that she was a bad choice for the part. I agree that Master and Commander was far and away the better film.RaeShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01841066344380185598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-57198450182470918822011-03-21T20:25:05.878-05:002011-03-21T20:25:05.878-05:00The effort put into Master by Weir and everyone as...The effort put into Master by Weir and everyone associated was incredible. It is derpressing to realize it did not pay off at the box office. They did not dumb-down the movie for a mass audience like Troy did. Significantly, Troy keeps Achilles alive to the end which is contrary to the legend.<br /><br />I disagree a bit with regard to your choreographed fights comment. I found the duel between Achilles and Hector was too obviously choreographed. It looked like they knew what the other was going to do next (which, of course, the actors did know).<br /><br />Anna Faris for Helen. LOLWar Movie Buffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999735218343872013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-29874457348711239692011-03-20T17:14:47.011-05:002011-03-20T17:14:47.011-05:00good matchup. CGI heavy history vs. Old School (en...good matchup. CGI heavy history vs. Old School (enhanced)FX. Ever since Lord of the Rings (especially Return in 2003)big CGI armies attacking have become accepted excitement in war movies. That and sweeping camerawork. I prefer the "place you onboard the real wooden ship" approach of Master. CGI is not nearly as bad as Motion Capture, but it just seems a touch to fake to me. The best scenes in Troy are the one on one sword duels between Pitt and various which involve less CGI and more choreography.<br />Weir is an excellent director. I look forward to seeing what his next movie is each year. Always something different and interesting. Petersen is good, but he has the "Terry Gilliam" syndrome to me: his earlier movies when his FX were more "handmade" are much better. Look at Das Boot. One of the best war movies ever made. Talk about putting you in the center of the action. That is exactly what Weir is trying to do and succeeding in Master.<br />Crowe is the better actor here. He lives this part. I actually think Pitt does a good job in Troy. He's like Cruise and Roberts however. You have to get past the STAR factor to the acting. Crowe is just as big a star but he projects a down to earth quality. Plus he had a whole series of books to fall back on for character research. I also think his relationship with the doctor helps the movie alot. <br />A movie i find better then Troy that has a similar scope is Kingdom of Heaven. That kinda got a bum rap. CGI is much better used there. And Bloom is much better. I need to see the directors cut of that one someday.<br />I did love how Pitt leaps into the air to stab his opponent in the neck. You know he did some research to come up with that move. <br />Im not sure who could have played Helen. Your right the actress was not good looking enuff. I mean come on...not worth going to war over. Maybe Pitt in a wig? <br />Good final score.JHardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12975399049775935074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-69409127434239629722011-03-20T12:01:22.636-05:002011-03-20T12:01:22.636-05:00I think you would find a s many Crowe as Pitt fans...I think you would find a s many Crowe as Pitt fans.<br />Master and Commander is a movie that works on a lot of levels and is also a movie one can easily re-watch more than once without being bored. I agree, Russell Crowe is a great actor. I don't think Academy Awards prove anything. I have seen average actors get it.allaboutwarmovieshttp://allaboutwarmovies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-41871873213462058192011-03-20T08:30:15.859-05:002011-03-20T08:30:15.859-05:00I'm not sure if most women would agree with yo...I'm not sure if most women would agree with your assessment of Pitt. Both Pitt and Crowe are sex symbols, but I think Crowe is the better actor. He has the awards to prove it.<br /><br /> It is obvious that unlike Troy where everything was geared to show off Pitt, Crowe was comfortable with sharing the spotlight. He even has scraggly hair. I will say that a sword fight between Achilles and Aubrey would be awesome!<br /> <br />Master and Commander will definitely be in my top 20. It reminds me of Glory. The combat, the acting, the character development. I am very appreciative of the enormous effort that went into making it as accurate as possible. This was the opposite of Troy. Petersen took the attitude of to Hell with Homer, whereas Weir did not want to offend any O'Brien fans. They even segregated the actors portraying the officers from the actors playing the crew. Crowe learned to play the violin. Nautical terms were used. One of the crew carried one of those multi-barreled shotguns in the boarding. That's the gun Patrick Harper carries in the Sharpe novels.War Movie Buffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999735218343872013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7201660899514011402.post-5848123021066199832011-03-20T04:24:11.903-05:002011-03-20T04:24:11.903-05:00I think it depends who watches the movies whether ...I think it depends who watches the movies whether it's female or male-oriented. Since I think many women consider Russell Crowe to be one of the best looking actors alive I would say Master and Commander is more female-oriented. Brad Pitt is plain and boring looking. I agree that the other actors, in particular Eric Bana are better. <br />All in all, I agree, Master and Commander is by far the better movie.allaboutwarmovieshttp://allaboutwarmovies.comnoreply@blogger.com